We ended class Tuesday with a discussion about the
rationality of faith. I agree with Dr. Talmage that “Putting it into categories
destroys the incarnation.” We can’t understand God by rational methods- that is
why following God is a journey of faith. Bonhoeffer (who is like another Kierkegaard to
me- some of you will understand the gravity of that comparison) agrees that
rational logic has no place in discipleship. The issue in question: didn’t God
give man the ability to be rational? Did he not make men rational creatures?
Looking at page 73,
“Man must decide for himself what is good by using his
conscience and his knowledge of good and evil. The commandment may be variously
interpreted, and it is God’s will that it should be interpreted and explained:
for God has given man a free will to decide what he will do. But this means
disobedience from the start. Doubt and reflection take the place of spontaneous
obedience… In short, it is a retreat from the reality of God to the
speculations of men, from faith to doubt.”
The issue for Adam and Eve in the Garden was not choosing
God or rejecting him. They already knew Him. However, because he gave them free
will, their decision was to sin or not to sin. They knew God- they knew he was
good, and he gave them only one command- not to eat from the Tree of Life. This
was a command to be followed with unquestioning obedience, but they doubted his
word. They decided to figure things out on their own, thinking in their limited
human knowledge that God was holding out on them. They rationalized the command
they had been given, and listened to the influence of Satan. They did not
choose righteousness, and so they set the precedent for generations to come-
rational thought. Thinking that our “knowledge of good and evil” is more
applicable than God’s command is the basis of rationality (which is the
possession of reason, and reason is “the mental powers concerned with forming
conclusions, judgments, or inferences”). The problem with this is that our
mental powers are faulty. We are not perfect, we do not have perfect knowledge,
and the One who does is requesting spontaneous obedience. Reading over this it
kind of sounds like we just need to be brainless Christians following blindly
an elusive voice from the sky… but that’s not it at all! I think it takes a
whole lot more maturity to listen to one who knows more than you, who can see
the big picture, and who has your best interests at heart than to run around
saying “lalalalalalala I don’t hear you! I wanna do it MY way!”
One last thought, because this is way longer than I wanted
it to be so everyone has probably stopped reading it by now so I’m just talking
to the air, but… Think of all that Adam and Eve missed out on because they ate
from the tree. They gave up a perfect life because they thought their way was
better. Obviously, I don’t have a shot at a perfect life, but I do not want to
miss God’s best for me because I am so determined to do things my own way. This
is why following him in obedience is so important. If we aren’t obeying then
how can we even say we’re following? We are just making choices and hoping He
blesses them. On that note, I love love love the quote from Luther on page 93! We won't understand... He is too big for us to comprehend and "his thoughts are not our thoughts"... so we must have faith.
But I digress…
P.S. commented on Joy’s “All of it Together”
Grading is based on one original post and one response. These two posts add up to ten points per week. The criteria are as follows: Completion; please refrain from poor grammar, poor spelling, and internet shorthand. Reference; mention the text or post to which the reply is directed. Personality; show thoughtfulness, care, and a sense of originality. Cohesiveness; The student should explain his or her thought without adding "fluff" merely to meet the requirement.
Wednesday, March 28, 2012
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I think you just explained Bonhoeffer's statement: "Only those who believe obey. Only those who obey believe." :)
ReplyDeleteI really liked this post. If we always tried to remain rational then faith would be useless. We need to have faith in God and understand that our rational minds cannot even begin to comprehend everything that God has done and will do. If we truly trust in Him, then we will never question Him. That is hard to do, but that is why we rely on our faith.
ReplyDeleteFirst of all Amanda, I love you! Second, you are so smart (just saying). Anyway, I sort of have a question. Is it wrong for us to try and rationalise some things in life? I mean, I know that it is impossible for us to understand things in Christianity like "God has always existed and always will exist, even before the Earth existed and there was just nothing." I mean if I try to think about that too long, my head actually starts to hurt and I just have to stop. However, we still need to be able to explain our faith to others, and it is good to know how to think rationally. If humans didn't think rationally, that world would be in even more chaos than it already is! I could just wake up one day and decide that I wanted to go kill the president, or climb up mount everest (two things that will never happen). I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't think rational thought is all a curse. I think that it is also sort of a blessing. I believe that God gave us rational thought for a reason. I think that it's good we can think through things and explain ourselves. It is what sets us apart for common animals who can't think for themselves. Basically, thought it good :)
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